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What is the success rate of recovery in AA and other 12 step programs?
Good question. The answer is not as easy to pin down as many of us would think. I think we have a tendency to believe that "someone out there" must certainly have all the data on everything. We hear statistics quoted on the news, we see facts published in the newspaper, and we just generally get a mountain of data thrown at us every day. So we tend to think that there are good numbers out there, hard data, that represent the facts, and we tend to put a lot of stock in these numbers.
Regarding 12 step programs, this is just not a reality. There are a number of problems that prevent us from really knowing what the true success rate in recovery is for AA.
For starters, there is the anonymity factor. The program was designed from the ground up with anonymity and confidentiality in mind, so it is very difficult to get reliable data on people in the fellowship. The nature of the disease means that those who relapse are much less likely to participate in a follow up survey, especially if it is several years later. Yet this is exactly the situation we have in studying the effectiveness of recovery programs: we need to track who stays sober and who does not. There is also going to be a shame factor involved, so you might get some skewed data from this too. For example, if you call someone who has alcohol addiction for a follow up phone survey after 5 years has passed, and they have since relapsed, is that person always going to be honest about their relapse in every single case? Sure, some will, but many will not, purely out of the shame that they may no loger be able to stay clean and sober. So it can be difficult to obtain reliable data simply due to the nature of the disease.
It is also difficult to even define success in some cases. For example, say you are doing a survey for recovering alcoholics who started out in AA and you are trying to determine the effectiveness of the AA program. Let's say you survey 500 alcoholics one year after they get sober in AA. Here are some contingencies you are going to have to deal with:
1) Those who are still sober but no longer attend AA. (count them as a success or a failure?)
2) Those who are still sober but still attend AA, but they had a slip at some point during the first year. They are sober today though. (Again, success or failure?).
3) Those who have stayed sober from alcohol but perhaps use some other drug such as painkillers or Marijuana.
So you can see that it is difficult to even define what success is in some cases, and therefore this can make it very difficult to measure. Even the Big Book of AA shows just how subjective this whole process can be, as they state that about half of all alcoholics stayed sober "out of those who really tried." What? So they did not count the alcoholics who they thought did not "really try?" This is just plain crazy, and you can imagine how many people do not "really try" in 12 step programs these days, as they now have a huge influx of 12 step members from the courts and legal system. Apparently none of these people who are court ordered to AA are going to be part of the success and failure statistics?
Interestingly enough, one study has shown that the same percentage of alcoholics find success in AA, regardless of whether or not they were a voluntary participant or whether they were court ordered to attend. So in other words, about 5 percent made it to a year sober, regardless of whether they were self motivated or not. Normally, everyone assumes that the self motivated group has a higher chance for success in AA. Turns out this is not true.
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Many very good points in your article. There are more of us than people think. 3/3/2007! One Day at A Time.
May be this lady is not an alcoholic at all
I attended AA meetings for a year, then chose not to go. I am still clean and sober. I found the meetings quite 'cliquish' and found myself feeling more alone there than with my-very supportive-family.
Thanks for this hub.
Congratulations on the article. It is basically on target when it comes to measuring success rates in fellowships today. And there are additional factors that make the picture even more clouded. On the other hand, we now have very positive information, well documented, that shows that of the original 40 members, 50% succeeded, 25% slipped and then succeeded. Those who dispute this fact just don't seem to be aware that all the original AAs knew each other well. They had address books with addresses and phone numbers (if they had a phone). Their lists, whether addresses or not, actually showed the sobriety dates and success factors of the pioneers. Many dispute the significance of the high rates in the beginning, but without a knowledge of the fourteen practices in which they engaged and the summary of their program by Frank Amos, the comments fall short of importance. God Bless, Dick B.
Success in AA, or any other treatment program, depends on where the person is in their acceptance of their addiction. I have witnessed many success stories and just as many relapses.
To be a success in any recovery program, you have to want sobriety more than you want the relationship with the substance or activity that you are addicted to.
I strongly believe that the 12 steps work if you work them.
When I was in ACOA, I was the only person in my meetings that was not in AA. My sponsor and the others said that AA got them sober, ACOA kept them sober. By being in ACOA, it dealt with the root cause of their addiction and it was not nearly as powerful.
Excellent article, Recovery Guy. You know, I've been slacking about mowing my yard the last few months. Here in Louisiana, it grows too fast. Well, a young man left a flyer so I called him to mow. I lost the flyer and mowed the next week. Yesterday, he came by and mentioned that it looked like it was that time again. This was after he had worked all day for a lawn service. Major tattoos and I was prejudging. But I'd already decided that I liked him the first time. Very polite. He commented on Mother's Day - gave her a card, 20 dollars and went to a casino for lunch. He mentioned that he didn't drink. Someone that young - he didn't look like a Baptist or Mormon. I had to ask. And yes, he'd been court ordered to AA. Finished his time but continued to stay sober. He tried two beers at his fiance's request and threw them up. Doesn't care what his buddies think. I was so proud of him. Sometimes they do hear something at a meeting that sticks. Amazing.












clayquinn 8 days ago
from Francis Hartigans ( lois Wilsons press secretary} Biography of Bill Wilson...page91......" he and Bob calculated their success rate to be about 5% , and among the few who seemed to catch on,not all were able to maintain consistent sobriety.....page 92 Bill made notations in the first copy of the book to come off the press, indicating which individuals portrayed theirin had stayed sober. A good 50 percent of them had not." so 1 out of 20 got sober and 55% of them drank again .. that works out to 2 1/2% ...for the first 100 men and woman of AA....about the same % of people that quit by willpower alone..